RE: Re: Putting it Gently
"...but I do have a few quotes from the Qur'an..."
I already answered these once, Behethland. If you really want me to, I can dig the response up again, but it's right here in the archives. The Quran, like the teachings of Jesus, should not be taken as a series of drive-by quotes, but as a whole message. When the message of Mohammed, as given in the Quran as well as the historical and biographical accounts of his life and teachings, is taken as a whole, the behavior of Muslim terrorists is completely within its bounds.
"The Qur'an teaches that justice is an inalienable right."
For believers. The Quran teaches that unbelievers can be considered as animals, references to this were posted earlier on The Bully Pulpit. Furthermore, as pointed out in multiple sources, the Muslim concept of justice is embodied in the sharia. As everyone who knows anything of sharia is aware, that concept of justice is strongly based in vengeance or "an eye for an eye." It also contains provisions neither you nor I would recognize as justice, for example, the provision that allows a man to buy his way out of an adultery conviction while the woman is subject to execution. Finally, as pointed out by Rosen, the very word, "justice" has multiple meanings among Muslims, everything from "truth" to "you are wrong."
"Maybe we should be using the word 'extremist' rather than 'fundamentalist' here..."
I can live with that.
"...but the point is that those who take the 'holy word', no matter the religion, literally is walking a dangerous path."
Hardly. You're back to fundamentalism. And the holy word varies from religion to religion. In Christianity, there is allowance for interpretation as long as it is based on study of the scriptures and reasoned introspection. However, in Christianity, those who pick and choose what they will and won't believe in the teachings of Christ are fooling no one but themselves. They are most definitely not fooling God.
"And I must differ with you on the issue of fundamentalism at Brown Mountain Baptist Church."
I didn't say anything about Brown Mountain Baptist Church and yes, I am aware it is full of liberals. That and the fact that we aren't Baptists is why you have never seen us there. It also does not represent the majority of the community, who are very, very fundamental, take my word for it.
I already answered these once, Behethland. If you really want me to, I can dig the response up again, but it's right here in the archives. The Quran, like the teachings of Jesus, should not be taken as a series of drive-by quotes, but as a whole message. When the message of Mohammed, as given in the Quran as well as the historical and biographical accounts of his life and teachings, is taken as a whole, the behavior of Muslim terrorists is completely within its bounds.
"The Qur'an teaches that justice is an inalienable right."
For believers. The Quran teaches that unbelievers can be considered as animals, references to this were posted earlier on The Bully Pulpit. Furthermore, as pointed out in multiple sources, the Muslim concept of justice is embodied in the sharia. As everyone who knows anything of sharia is aware, that concept of justice is strongly based in vengeance or "an eye for an eye." It also contains provisions neither you nor I would recognize as justice, for example, the provision that allows a man to buy his way out of an adultery conviction while the woman is subject to execution. Finally, as pointed out by Rosen, the very word, "justice" has multiple meanings among Muslims, everything from "truth" to "you are wrong."
"Maybe we should be using the word 'extremist' rather than 'fundamentalist' here..."
I can live with that.
"...but the point is that those who take the 'holy word', no matter the religion, literally is walking a dangerous path."
Hardly. You're back to fundamentalism. And the holy word varies from religion to religion. In Christianity, there is allowance for interpretation as long as it is based on study of the scriptures and reasoned introspection. However, in Christianity, those who pick and choose what they will and won't believe in the teachings of Christ are fooling no one but themselves. They are most definitely not fooling God.
"And I must differ with you on the issue of fundamentalism at Brown Mountain Baptist Church."
I didn't say anything about Brown Mountain Baptist Church and yes, I am aware it is full of liberals. That and the fact that we aren't Baptists is why you have never seen us there. It also does not represent the majority of the community, who are very, very fundamental, take my word for it.
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