Step away from the Prozac, Andy
Being an optimist, I don't see why we can't make an effort to get that 11% we need for a majority.
That's not being an optimist, that's being irrational. Remember, I said 40% is best case. As well, your memory appears to be a little selective with regard to the number of times we got our collective butts kicked by the moderates and liberals in a local party organization that is probably an order of magnitude more conservative than the vast majority of the party at large. And finally, even if you can muster enough movement conservatives to make a difference, it will be almost impossible to get them to agree on enough points to count on them for much. Once again, remember the times that we were sold down the river by the other supposed conservatives in the Stokes County organization.
...I don't know what issues will pop up down the road to where forming an alliance will be necessary.
It's hard to form an alliance with no one. The libertarians spent an uneasy existence during their tenure in the GOP. They were sold out by their alliance partners, the conservatives. Trust me, they won't be back.
Since I believe elections are won on the local level, maybe that's where us conservatives should focus our attention...
Once again, your memory is selective. All that work you did was wonderful, but I lost, remember? And more to the point, it wasn't the Democrats who beat me, it was the Republicans. Once again, you don't have the numbers to prevail, even at the local level.
I think it would be easier for conservatives and libertarians to change the GOP than to start a party from scratch.
History says you're wrong about that. Again I say, remember the Whigs. Also, mathematics are against you. If conservatives and libertarians move to a third party and run a viable candidate against the Democrats and the Republicans, that candidate only needs 34% of the vote.
The problem is you have to be a member of a political party to try to advance anything...
That's sheer pragmatism speaking. I hope you aren't forgetting what pragmatism has bought the GOP over the last seven years.
Take Ron Paul for example: If he was running as an independent, people wouldn't be paying any attention to him...
Doesn't follow. Joe Lieberman ran as an independent and won.
That's not being an optimist, that's being irrational. Remember, I said 40% is best case. As well, your memory appears to be a little selective with regard to the number of times we got our collective butts kicked by the moderates and liberals in a local party organization that is probably an order of magnitude more conservative than the vast majority of the party at large. And finally, even if you can muster enough movement conservatives to make a difference, it will be almost impossible to get them to agree on enough points to count on them for much. Once again, remember the times that we were sold down the river by the other supposed conservatives in the Stokes County organization.
...I don't know what issues will pop up down the road to where forming an alliance will be necessary.
It's hard to form an alliance with no one. The libertarians spent an uneasy existence during their tenure in the GOP. They were sold out by their alliance partners, the conservatives. Trust me, they won't be back.
Since I believe elections are won on the local level, maybe that's where us conservatives should focus our attention...
Once again, your memory is selective. All that work you did was wonderful, but I lost, remember? And more to the point, it wasn't the Democrats who beat me, it was the Republicans. Once again, you don't have the numbers to prevail, even at the local level.
I think it would be easier for conservatives and libertarians to change the GOP than to start a party from scratch.
History says you're wrong about that. Again I say, remember the Whigs. Also, mathematics are against you. If conservatives and libertarians move to a third party and run a viable candidate against the Democrats and the Republicans, that candidate only needs 34% of the vote.
The problem is you have to be a member of a political party to try to advance anything...
That's sheer pragmatism speaking. I hope you aren't forgetting what pragmatism has bought the GOP over the last seven years.
Take Ron Paul for example: If he was running as an independent, people wouldn't be paying any attention to him...
Doesn't follow. Joe Lieberman ran as an independent and won.
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