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Tuesday, June 26, 2007

Stokes wants to expand, renovate school

Board approves plan to buy 21 acres with proceeds from lottery

DANBURY (Winston-Salem Journal) -
Lawsonville Elementary School, Stokes County’s second-most overcrowded school, is one step closer to being renovated and expanded.

The Stokes County Board of Commissioners unanimously approved last night the Stokes County Board of Education’s plans to buy about 21 acres adjacent to the elementary school. The land will cost the county $180,000. The school board plans to buy the land with proceeds from the N.C. lottery.


Blogger erinsn77 said...

Ok so I have been upset about this whole school issue for several yrs now and I have contacted everyone I can on the Stokes County school board about the overcrowding issue.. My daughter is one of them to be affected at Mt. Olive which is the #1 most over crowded in the county so now that Lawsonville has 87 students over they decide there going to do something????? WTH!!!! Im raging over this issue there are over 800 students in Mt. Olive which is over 400 over the capacity and there going to build onto Lawsonville??? Im and so sick and tired of Stokes county This is one of the # 1 reasons Im moving out Ill pay the higher forsyth county taxes at least I can justify that my child will get a better education this way! I am in shock and still cannot believe this!

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 12:21:00 PM  
Anonymous J.M. Turpin said...

Andy, they are spending a little over $8,500 an acre on the land. Wonder who lined that deal up? When they bought land for Piney Grove, it was a hole that required alot of grading. Wonder if any commissioner has stepped foot on the land to look it over?

Wednesday, June 27, 2007 10:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The solution to this, in the long run, is to remove your children from the public schools. Actually, you should do that regardless of anything that is going on with shady real estate deals. No, your children will not receive a better education in Forsyth County. They will not receive a better education, or much of any description of education in any government-run school.

Wednesday, June 27, 2007 8:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Folks it is easy to sit back and talk about the problems with Stokes County, but everybody that is not satisfied needs to get involved and not just talk about it. That won't solve anything. We need districts so that we can get people that think as you and I do. Not like the Cox and Walker Idiots of the county. Then maybe we can move the Schools and County forward.

Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:52:00 AM  
Blogger erinsn77 said...

I understand that moving to Forsyth county may not get a better education but it will in turn have more classes like Art and Music the things that Stokes county cannot budget for and took out of the school system.. If Im going to pay my tax dollars I want my child to get all the education she can and as for private schools if I could afford to send her to Forsyth country day or a school like that dont you think I would??!! Also a comment for the person who said that everyone who is not satisfied should come together well I have tried and one person cannot move a mountain tell me how we can all come together and get something changed in this county???

Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Once again, all this is nothing more than lipstick on the pig.

Get your kids out now. Stop feeding them to the machine.

Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:05:00 AM  
Blogger erinsn77 said...

I am... Im getting them out of stokes county I think that will be a 99% improvement! If I didnt have to take out a second mortgage on my home to send them to a private school I would!

Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I look at it differently. You can't afford not to take your children out of the public schools.

Mine are all grown, but if I had it to do over again, I would have done without whatever I had to give up to get my kids out of the government school meat grinder. Believe me when I tell you, the end result borders on being tragic. Slowly but surely your children are being stolen from you. You will not believe it now, but when they are grown, you will look back and say, "How could I have been so stupid?"

Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:10:00 AM  
Anonymous King Bandit said...

But your kids turned out well though, Steve. If government-run schools suck like you say, then how did your children succeed?

Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:17:00 AM  
Blogger erinsn77 said...

I understand what you mean but millions of us went to public schools and we all turned out pretty good I as an example are one of them! I moved to Stokes county to get my children a better education.. BOY WAS I WRONG! I guess we all have our opinions and im not saying Public schools are horrible but I am saying that Stokes county schools are failing fast and something needs to be done about it before they hit rock bottom and there is no turning back!

Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:18:00 AM  
Blogger erinsn77 said...

I wanted to make 1 last comment to you Steve I think when you say "Slowly but surely your children are being stolen from you." I believe you are talking about the teenage years!! we all go through that have you forgotten??

Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First, there is a huge difference between people who attended public schools back in the 1950s versus those who attended from the 1960s onward. It was during the latter time that schools went from even attempting to educate children to becoming social engineering laboratories and Marxist indoctrination centers. Be that as it may, one would have to define what "pretty good" means with regard to how we survived a public education. There is a strong case to be made that the attitudes and intellectual capacity that have resulted in the last 40 years of public education are exactly the reason we face a complete societal collapse some time within the very next generation or two.

I am not saying that any child who attends public schools will end up a cretin, although that is an alarmingly frequent outcome. I am saying that government-run schools must, by definition operate at the lowest common denominator. I suppose that's fine if your child is in the lower half of the Bell curve, but who want to think of their children in that manner?

If you are a person of faith, I can't even imagine why you would send your children to the moral equivalent of a gay bar to have them educated.

All three of my children attended college. Two of them finished. Ask any of them today and they will tell you they were woefully under-prepared. They will tell you that anything they got from public schools in the way of preparation had to be wrestled by them from the system. When I see how they made it through, I kick myself every day thinking of where they would be had I made the effort to actually get them an education.

The public schools not only fail to achieve excellence, they actively stifle it. I cannot fathom why any parent (including, unfortunately, myself) would settle for mediocrity when excellence can be achieved.

The financial aspects of the argument are not legitimate. Millions of people of extremely modest means all across the country educate their children outside the public schools. It is mostly a matter of establishing priorities and living up to the truth of the assertion that their education is more important than anything else in your life.

Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Monica said...

I love how you shoulda coulda woulda people give out advice for things you didnt do and now dont have to worry about. Steve your kids are through with school so now your trying to make other parents feel bad for not putting themselves in dangerous debt to put their kids in private schools. Shame on you. Im sure its easy to dictate your beliefs to others now that you dont have to worry about it anymore. Plan and simple, America is not how it should be and probably never will again. For the poeple by the poeple is a load of bull. Its who you know and how much money you have to win elections and dictate your views. Nothing is gonna change in our school systems period and even if our kids go to private schools, we will still fall short in comparison to China and Japan who put education, kids and their elderly first. Our country is backwards and everyone is out for themselves.

Thursday, June 28, 2007 12:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well that's a nice little collectivist rant.

I guess you would prefer that we all just turn over our incomes to Mommy government and let her decide what's important for us. Apparently you find China's model to be superior. Unfortunately what you see of the Chinese education system is only what they want you to see. Only a very small percentage of Chinese children receive what we would consider to be even a middle school education. In China, getting a higher education is all about who you know.

In point of fact, children from China and Japan find it necessary to come here to upgrade their educations and find jobs. I speak from firsthand experience since I have had numerous people from China and Japan working with and for me. As well, they will tell you that the reasons they have achieved a higher education level is because their families made huge sacrifices to get them there. Their dedication to learning, their work ethic, and their superior performance are mostly due to their appreciation of that sacrifice. Americans, on the other hand, drive up to the government school-mill and dump the kids out of the SUV to be policed by the government babysitters for six or eight hours and simply hope for the best.

I find the shrill screeching demands that the government keep dumping more and more money into the schools to be highly incongruent with the protestations that people can't put their children in private schools without going into "dangerous debt." Unspoken in those demands is that I help pay for your childrens' education since you are unwilling to make the sacrifices necessary to do what is needed.

I am always amazed at the capacity people have to ignore decades or even centuries of evidence and continue wishing upon some Utopian Marxist star. Public education has never been completely successful. As the systems become larger and more centralized, the failures of public education simply become bigger and more embarrassing with them. All the shrill demands and self-righteous anger cannot repair what is a fundamentally defective concept.

Thursday, June 28, 2007 1:43:00 PM  
Blogger erinsn77 said...

This was a simple conversation on the Stokes County school boards decisions on what school to expand and who to give there money to and you turn this into an big education debate on where to send your children and where not to send them.. Just because you have regrets of not sending your children to private schools dont take it out on everyone else... I see you have some pent up issues with yourself which is obvious... I know that your upset that you have to pay for our childrens crappy education out of your tax dollars well millions of others also payed there tax dollars on your childrens education too!! so then why dont you stand up and fight with us instead of against us??? its coming out of your pocket too!! I mean why dont people understand this?? Im sure you wouldnt go to the store and buy moldy bread and be content with it!

Thursday, June 28, 2007 2:07:00 PM  
Blogger erinsn77 said...

This was a simple conversation on the Stokes County school boards decisions on what school to expand and who to give there money to and you turn this into an big education debate on where to send your children and where not to send them.. Just because you have regrets of not sending your children to private schools don't take it out on everyone else... I see you have some pent up issues with yourself which is obvious... I know that your upset that you have to pay for our children's crappy education out of your tax dollars well millions of others also paid there tax dollars on your children's education too!! so then why don't you stand up and fight with us instead of against us??? its coming out of your pocket too!! I mean why don't people understand this?? I'm sure you wouldn't go to the store and buy moldy bread and be content with it!

Thursday, June 28, 2007 2:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right, I obviously believe public education to be a failed concept because I have issues with myself. There is simply no possibility that I have evaluated it intellectually and rationally and found it severely wanting. Since everyone else behaves solely on the basis of their emotions, that must be my basis as well. Where does that kind of nonsense come from?

I think you're missing the point. I don't want anyone to continue paying for anyone else's education. I want the public schools shut down. If I get involved in trying to improve the schools within the system, it means I give credence to the system. Clearly I do not.

Your bread analogy is faulty. I am not given the choice of which bread I choose to buy from the government education system. I am told what bread I must take and I'm not even allowed the option of not buying bread at all. I am forced to take the moldy bread.

What you further fail to understand is that citizen action is a pointless waste of time and energy where the public schools are concerned. While you may be able to get the more spineless of the pols to condescend and mouth platitudes for a while, the end result will be little different than if you had stayed at home and watched a DVD. The internal interests within the system are too high and too wide for you to overcome. Many people with far greater wherewithal have fought the battle for years and made utterly no headway. All your victories will be small and eventually meaningless. In the end, because you are simply putting lipstick on the pig, your children will not receive any better education for your having jumped into the fray. It is the system that is broken. You cannot fix it, you can only dismantle it and find a better way to educate your children.

Thursday, June 28, 2007 2:37:00 PM  
Blogger erinsn77 said...

I know I cannot fight the Stokes County system why do you think I have made the desicion to move? I figure If I cant beat them im sure as hell not going to join them Im moving out!

Thursday, June 28, 2007 2:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Monica said...

Man all I can say is this dude needs to get a life.......lol. Maybe Steve should quit his high paying job and home school all the poor kids whose parents can't afford private school…Boo Hoo. I mean home schooling is considered the best over private and public schools. That's how Mr. almighty Steve can change the world and pat himself on the back and feed his huge ego...ha-ha. I swear I can't stop laughing at how seriously this dude takes himself. Well golly geez, I do believe Mr. Steve got a good education with all them there big ol words he likes usin'….hahaha. Guess the public school system isn't so bad after all......lol. I'm done with all this crap. I have better things to do. Think I'll go listen to Paris Hilton on Larry King...lol.

Thursday, June 28, 2007 3:15:00 PM  
Blogger lisa said...

Well, I guess it is all in your point of view on which is greener. We live in Greensboro and HATE the Guilford County School system and the superintendent Terry Grier. The entire school board is all about diversification and if you go to a school board meeting, you never hear them talk about education at all. They spend endless time and money on finding ways to mix everyone up, and for no reason except diversity. That is their entire focus. It is supposed to just magically make everyone love each other and to mix students with low grades with ones with high grades so that he average scores are shown, and then they say they have improved the low scoring kids, when in actually nothing has changed. Having all of that said, we just bought 75 acres in stokes county and our two young daughters will be going to Lawsonville and we can not wait to get them to a rural place to grow up, and into that school system. In our oppinion, that school system is thousands of times better than the Guilford County school system. We never thought of moving from here until we learned about the school system here, and our main reason FOR moving to Stokes County IS for the better school system. So all of you guys who don't like it there, come to Greensboro and give our schools a try. Let your kid get bused all the way across town, when a perfectly good school is two miles from your home, all because the school board wants to mix them all races together. Go to a school board meeting and hear about how it is unfair to suspend black kids who have done something wrong, but it is perfectly fine to suspend everyone else. Listen to Deena Hayes, fight to have the black contractors win the bids, but not tell everyone that her boyfriend is one of the black contractors. She plays the race card at every single meeting, to a point that she is the racist against white people. She relates the white middle class kids to 'slave owners'... for no reason at all. I think she has a big problem with living in the modern times and she is the one who causes the racial tension, not the kids. So you guys that don't like the Stokes County schools, move on out. That'll be more room for us.

Saturday, October 27, 2007 10:13:00 AM  

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