Common Ground
Common ground is good. I'm all for common ground.
I'm not a fan of the "except in the case of..." abortion argument, but let's begin with the most commonly used of those arguments, rape, incest, physical health of the mother. In other words, let's disallow all abortion performed for convenience. Surely common ground includes agreement that infanticide to avoid inconvenience is a great evil that should be stopped? Surely common ground indicates that you wouldn't shoot your grandmother because she inconvenienced you. Wouldn't the same common ground apply to your child? That would eliminate 93% of all abortions. I'm fine with that in the name of common ground.
Later we can talk about those other cases and bring in adoption as an alternative.
Behethland said:
Once again, by this logic, murder, rape, assault, and a whole host of other violent crimes should not be illegal then. This is a circular argument. It will not be made more correct by continuing to repeat it. Or are we to collapse under the weight of making everything legal simply to avoid making anyone a criminal?
Suppose I decide to adopt a child. I start the paperwork, begin getting my house ready, and otherwise move along the path toward adoption. Now, a couple of months go by and I decide I don't really want to adopt a child any more. I decide it will be too disruptive to my lifestyle. But the paperwork is started, the process has begun. In the pro-abortionist's world, my legal recourse should be to chop the child up into little bits and throw the remains in the garbage. Furthermore, I should not be subjected to any stigma for taking this action.
Another case. I go to a party. At the party I meet someone and agree to take a child from them. The reasons for doing this are unimportant. In the pro-abortionist's world, after my hangover clears up the next day, I should immediately feed the child into the nearest chipper and walk away whistling a tune.
In the pro-abortionist's world, there should be no penalty for my actions in either case because even if it was illegal, I would still do it anyway.
There is no argument for abortion-for-convenience that is not patently foolish and disingenuous.
I'm not a fan of the "except in the case of..." abortion argument, but let's begin with the most commonly used of those arguments, rape, incest, physical health of the mother. In other words, let's disallow all abortion performed for convenience. Surely common ground includes agreement that infanticide to avoid inconvenience is a great evil that should be stopped? Surely common ground indicates that you wouldn't shoot your grandmother because she inconvenienced you. Wouldn't the same common ground apply to your child? That would eliminate 93% of all abortions. I'm fine with that in the name of common ground.
Later we can talk about those other cases and bring in adoption as an alternative.
Behethland said:
"Another important point to make is that abortions aren't a new thing. Women have always looked for ways to end problem or unwanted pregnancies."and
"If abortions aren't legal, desperate women will STILL go to any length to get them. It is important that this procedure stay in a doctor's office and remain safe."
Once again, by this logic, murder, rape, assault, and a whole host of other violent crimes should not be illegal then. This is a circular argument. It will not be made more correct by continuing to repeat it. Or are we to collapse under the weight of making everything legal simply to avoid making anyone a criminal?
Suppose I decide to adopt a child. I start the paperwork, begin getting my house ready, and otherwise move along the path toward adoption. Now, a couple of months go by and I decide I don't really want to adopt a child any more. I decide it will be too disruptive to my lifestyle. But the paperwork is started, the process has begun. In the pro-abortionist's world, my legal recourse should be to chop the child up into little bits and throw the remains in the garbage. Furthermore, I should not be subjected to any stigma for taking this action.
Another case. I go to a party. At the party I meet someone and agree to take a child from them. The reasons for doing this are unimportant. In the pro-abortionist's world, after my hangover clears up the next day, I should immediately feed the child into the nearest chipper and walk away whistling a tune.
In the pro-abortionist's world, there should be no penalty for my actions in either case because even if it was illegal, I would still do it anyway.
There is no argument for abortion-for-convenience that is not patently foolish and disingenuous.
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