RE: Of power and bombast
Steve -> "You just can't respond without resorting to ad hominem, can you? Grow up."
I can't help but laugh, Steve; you resort to ad hominem attacks on a routine basis on here. You're the old timer on here; maybe you need to grow up.
-> "Remind me which party Bush belongs to. And are you prescient? How can you be so sure? Furthermore, I would almost be willing to bet real money that even if the Democrats don't take over, the Bush plan will be passed. That little piece of RNC spinning tinsel won't even stand up to a light breeze."
Bush is a Republican, and I disagree with him on this issue. With that said, there were plenty of Republicans who were opposed to his plan. The same question can be asked of you: "Are you prescient?" I'm not sure what's going to happen an hour from now, much less what's going to happen next week or next year. The evidence suggests that the Senate immigration plan will be passed if the Democrats control the House.
-> "I don't know who "we" is. I thought no such thing and there were numerous others like me. Bush took advantage of the post 9/11 sentiment to push an agenda item from when his Dad was in office. Even had the alleged WMD existed, there is no indication that Hussein posed any threat to us as a sovereign nation."
And there were numerous others who thought they were there; every intel report throughout the world thought they were there. Some have suggested they were shipped to Syria during the build-up to the war. It's easy to look back and say, "I knew they weren't there." There you go again with your conspiracy theories about Bush taking advantage of post 9/11 to push an agenda item from his Dad's administration. How can you say if Hussein had WMD, he didn't pose a threat to us? A terrorist just has to be right once to kill thousands here in the states with biological or chemical weapons. If these guys are willing to fly planes into buildings, they sure aren't going to blink twice about releasing junk in a NYC subway.
-> "The Republican Administration and Congress have shown that they have no regard for the Constitutional limits placed on police action. Even the very language being used is horrifically Orwellian: secret tribunals, blanket surveillance."
So you want these terrorists to be tried out in the open here in the states. Hey, if that's what you want, then you should vote for people who will do that. And if you feel the need for a terrorist to call to the states without the feds intercepting his call, then you should vote for candidates that will do that.
-> "I have no idea how that comment even remotely relates to this discussion."
Even though their methods were different, both Reagan & Bush wanted certain countries to be democratic countries. Since you were ripping Bush for wanting a "North American mega-state," I would assume you ripped Reagan at the time for doing it.
I can't help but laugh, Steve; you resort to ad hominem attacks on a routine basis on here. You're the old timer on here; maybe you need to grow up.
-> "Remind me which party Bush belongs to. And are you prescient? How can you be so sure? Furthermore, I would almost be willing to bet real money that even if the Democrats don't take over, the Bush plan will be passed. That little piece of RNC spinning tinsel won't even stand up to a light breeze."
Bush is a Republican, and I disagree with him on this issue. With that said, there were plenty of Republicans who were opposed to his plan. The same question can be asked of you: "Are you prescient?" I'm not sure what's going to happen an hour from now, much less what's going to happen next week or next year. The evidence suggests that the Senate immigration plan will be passed if the Democrats control the House.
-> "I don't know who "we" is. I thought no such thing and there were numerous others like me. Bush took advantage of the post 9/11 sentiment to push an agenda item from when his Dad was in office. Even had the alleged WMD existed, there is no indication that Hussein posed any threat to us as a sovereign nation."
And there were numerous others who thought they were there; every intel report throughout the world thought they were there. Some have suggested they were shipped to Syria during the build-up to the war. It's easy to look back and say, "I knew they weren't there." There you go again with your conspiracy theories about Bush taking advantage of post 9/11 to push an agenda item from his Dad's administration. How can you say if Hussein had WMD, he didn't pose a threat to us? A terrorist just has to be right once to kill thousands here in the states with biological or chemical weapons. If these guys are willing to fly planes into buildings, they sure aren't going to blink twice about releasing junk in a NYC subway.
-> "The Republican Administration and Congress have shown that they have no regard for the Constitutional limits placed on police action. Even the very language being used is horrifically Orwellian: secret tribunals, blanket surveillance."
So you want these terrorists to be tried out in the open here in the states. Hey, if that's what you want, then you should vote for people who will do that. And if you feel the need for a terrorist to call to the states without the feds intercepting his call, then you should vote for candidates that will do that.
-> "I have no idea how that comment even remotely relates to this discussion."
Even though their methods were different, both Reagan & Bush wanted certain countries to be democratic countries. Since you were ripping Bush for wanting a "North American mega-state," I would assume you ripped Reagan at the time for doing it.
posted by Anonymous | 11:06 AM
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