Selective Memories
Steve responds: "As well, your memory appears to be a little selective with regard to the number of times we got our collective butts kicked by the moderates and liberals in a local party organization that is probably an order of magnitude more conservative than the vast majority of the party at large."
We got our butt kicked because we failed to organize on the precinct level. The turnout is so low at these precinct meetings it wouldn't take much to get a good conservative turnout to them.
"And finally, even if you can muster enough movement conservatives to make a difference, it will be almost impossible to get them to agree on enough points to count on them for much. Once again, remember the times that we were sold down the river by the other supposed conservatives in the Stokes County organization."
It's according what those points are... Typically, people will put other differences aside if there is a hot button issue for people to rally around. It seems alliances change from political season to political season.
"It's hard to form an alliance with no one. The libertarians spent an uneasy existence during their tenure in the GOP. They were sold out by their alliance partners, the conservatives. Trust me, they won't be back."
I think they will be back... one day. It will take some new faces in the GOP for it to happen though. But I still think there will be some hot button issue down the road where the GOP & libertarians will unite once again.
"All that work you did was wonderful, but I lost, remember? And more to the point, it wasn't the Democrats who beat me, it was the Republicans. Once again, you don't have the numbers to prevail, even at the local level."
The reason you lost was because you weren't organized in all the precincts... In the precincts where you had people calling other people, knocking on doors, writing letters, etc., you did well... In places where you had nobody, you got beat.
"Joe Lieberman ran as an independent and won."
That's true, but Lieberman had the name recognition where he was able to pull it off. I guess one would need a highly regarded official in a particular state to run as an independent.
We got our butt kicked because we failed to organize on the precinct level. The turnout is so low at these precinct meetings it wouldn't take much to get a good conservative turnout to them.
"And finally, even if you can muster enough movement conservatives to make a difference, it will be almost impossible to get them to agree on enough points to count on them for much. Once again, remember the times that we were sold down the river by the other supposed conservatives in the Stokes County organization."
It's according what those points are... Typically, people will put other differences aside if there is a hot button issue for people to rally around. It seems alliances change from political season to political season.
"It's hard to form an alliance with no one. The libertarians spent an uneasy existence during their tenure in the GOP. They were sold out by their alliance partners, the conservatives. Trust me, they won't be back."
I think they will be back... one day. It will take some new faces in the GOP for it to happen though. But I still think there will be some hot button issue down the road where the GOP & libertarians will unite once again.
"All that work you did was wonderful, but I lost, remember? And more to the point, it wasn't the Democrats who beat me, it was the Republicans. Once again, you don't have the numbers to prevail, even at the local level."
The reason you lost was because you weren't organized in all the precincts... In the precincts where you had people calling other people, knocking on doors, writing letters, etc., you did well... In places where you had nobody, you got beat.
"Joe Lieberman ran as an independent and won."
That's true, but Lieberman had the name recognition where he was able to pull it off. I guess one would need a highly regarded official in a particular state to run as an independent.
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