RE: The red pill or the blue pill?
Steve opines: "Nope. I'm not going to follow you down the rabbit-hole of nitpicking arguments, Andy."
I was just responding to your previous post...
"McCain and Graham appear in a press conference and make policy statements and the GOP-controlled Congress moves those policy statements into law. Whether or not they are media whores in the process has no bearing whatsoever on the historical fact that the two of them exert substantial control over the GOP's agenda."
Like what??? You act like the GOP has big majorities in both houses of Congress... You've got enough RINO's in both houses to annoy the crap out of conservatives.
"Ok, I stand corrected. However, that is also irrelevant."
I would be willing to bet that if the vote numbers supported you, they would be relevant. Ha!
"First, you're telling me that the Republican President signed into law a bill that the majority of his party didn't support. Where was the outrage?"
Yes, Bush signed a law that the majority of Republicans didn't support... That's the reason he signed it in private in the oval office. The outrage was shown when
Mitch McConnell took the issue to the Supreme Court.
"Where was the official condemnation of Bush from the RNC? The absence of anything like a reaction means that the GOP supports, at least tacitly, the CFR law. It's party over principle, Andy."
Come on... Let's be rational here. The majority of Republicans voted against the bill... In the end, that's all they could do.
"Principle meant nothing, they marched lockstep to the official party line. Now that the Republicans are in power, their behavior in that regard is indistinguishable."
In politics, you win some & you lose some... Life goes on.
"The Democrats ruled with an iron fist for decades under identical conditions. They pushed their agenda even in cases where they didn't control but half of one branch of government. It isn't that the Republicans are weak or ineffectual, it is that they have become the Democrats, and there's no going back."
Hey, Reagan was able to get through his tax cuts in the early 80's with the help of the blue dog Democrats... You work with the cards that you have been dealt.
"You keep telling me what you think is going to happen or what you believe is going to happen, but history isn't on your side. You keep telling me most Republicans don't agree with what the Republicans have done these past six years, but what difference does that make? If they don't agree, yet the end result is the same, what is the functional difference between that situation and the one in which they do agree?"
Bush has made you completely paranoid and irrational... Most Republicans I know don't agree with a lot of things that are going on, and to their credit, they do take some action by supporting causes (like the Minutemen) and some other conservative grassroots movements. That's more than I can say that I do. I just know that on Election Day, I'm going to vote my conscience.
"You might as well tell me you believe in the tooth fairy. That's not rational, that's...you guessed it...drinking the Kool-aid."
I would assume you have the American flag flying upside down at your house and you're in the process of building an underground bunker. :-)
I was just responding to your previous post...
"McCain and Graham appear in a press conference and make policy statements and the GOP-controlled Congress moves those policy statements into law. Whether or not they are media whores in the process has no bearing whatsoever on the historical fact that the two of them exert substantial control over the GOP's agenda."
Like what??? You act like the GOP has big majorities in both houses of Congress... You've got enough RINO's in both houses to annoy the crap out of conservatives.
"Ok, I stand corrected. However, that is also irrelevant."
I would be willing to bet that if the vote numbers supported you, they would be relevant. Ha!
"First, you're telling me that the Republican President signed into law a bill that the majority of his party didn't support. Where was the outrage?"
Yes, Bush signed a law that the majority of Republicans didn't support... That's the reason he signed it in private in the oval office. The outrage was shown when
Mitch McConnell took the issue to the Supreme Court.
"Where was the official condemnation of Bush from the RNC? The absence of anything like a reaction means that the GOP supports, at least tacitly, the CFR law. It's party over principle, Andy."
Come on... Let's be rational here. The majority of Republicans voted against the bill... In the end, that's all they could do.
"Principle meant nothing, they marched lockstep to the official party line. Now that the Republicans are in power, their behavior in that regard is indistinguishable."
In politics, you win some & you lose some... Life goes on.
"The Democrats ruled with an iron fist for decades under identical conditions. They pushed their agenda even in cases where they didn't control but half of one branch of government. It isn't that the Republicans are weak or ineffectual, it is that they have become the Democrats, and there's no going back."
Hey, Reagan was able to get through his tax cuts in the early 80's with the help of the blue dog Democrats... You work with the cards that you have been dealt.
"You keep telling me what you think is going to happen or what you believe is going to happen, but history isn't on your side. You keep telling me most Republicans don't agree with what the Republicans have done these past six years, but what difference does that make? If they don't agree, yet the end result is the same, what is the functional difference between that situation and the one in which they do agree?"
Bush has made you completely paranoid and irrational... Most Republicans I know don't agree with a lot of things that are going on, and to their credit, they do take some action by supporting causes (like the Minutemen) and some other conservative grassroots movements. That's more than I can say that I do. I just know that on Election Day, I'm going to vote my conscience.
"You might as well tell me you believe in the tooth fairy. That's not rational, that's...you guessed it...drinking the Kool-aid."
I would assume you have the American flag flying upside down at your house and you're in the process of building an underground bunker. :-)
posted by Andy W. Rogers | 11:20 PM
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